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| − | I wish I could comprehensively list every game, film, or book, that used names from the bible. It is one of the most widely known religious documents in the world, but to draw all of the strange, allegorical comparisons that this site draws is just pure idiocy. Although I haven't explored it very much yet, there are some things I would like to talk about. | + | I wish I could comprehensively list every game, film, or book, that used names from the |
| − | Biblical names are in fact, used in Chrono Trigger, but they appear in many games, films, and books both from the West and the East, something you fail to note. The suggestion that the compelling biblical allegory in Chrono Trigger should easily be a testament of the religious affiliations of the creators is typical of the arrogance I would expect from an overzealous Westerner. | + | bible. It is one of the most widely known religious documents in the world, but to draw all of |
| − | First and foremost,comparing Chrono to Jesus and Magus (or Lavos) to Satan is the same as an Arab person comparing Chrono to Gilgamesh, or Greeks to many of their Heroes. Many of their heroes struggle against an unknown evil force. Almost all of them die and are reborn in some manner. One who understands anything about mythology and about good fantasy knows that this is an inescapable theme, which also, not surprisingly, appears in the myths surrounding people whose existence is historically documented like Jesus or Siddharta Guatama. This website is a case of lofty religious folk trying to impose their religion, and trying to impose it through one of my favorite games. Of course I respect your right to your opinion. | + | the strange, allegorical comparisons that this site draws is just pure idiocy. Although I |
| − | The second thing I would like to talk about is your odd comparison of Zeal to Babylon. While in Babylon, the people worshipped many pagan Gods, in Zeal there is simply a slight reverence (later moving to worship) for the power of Lavos. In Babylon, the city was destroyed by a vengeful God who was angry at them for engaging in human sacrifice (something which never appeared in Zeal), although the chief thing that angered God about the Babylonians was their unwillingness to care for the poor. Go back and read it, I believe it's mentioned several times. Another thing that should be mentioned is that the Israelites were a foreign people enslaved by the Babylonians; the Earthbound are people from Zeal who were segregated because they could not use magic, and were only later enslaved, when the queen had fallen under the influence of Lavos. | + | haven't explored it very much yet, there are some things I would like to talk about. |
| − | You miss the point of the saga of Zeal, which does have a good message for those who are willing to hear it. The story of Zeal and it's queen is one which warns against a blind lust for power, as well as a disregard for the environment and our fellow human beings. The Queen's willingness to build herself and her prestige at the cost of others is characteristic of many of the tyrants in human history. I shake my head at one who strays so far from the mark. And perhaps another point that you should note in the story of Zeal is what the word itself means. | + | |
| + | Biblical names are in fact, used in Chrono Trigger, but they appear in many games, films, and | ||
| + | books both from the West and the East, something you fail to note. The suggestion that the | ||
| + | compelling biblical allegory in Chrono Trigger should easily be a testament of the religious | ||
| + | affiliations of the creators is typical of the arrogance I would expect from an overzealous | ||
| + | Westerner. | ||
| + | |||
| + | First and foremost,comparing Chrono to Jesus and Magus (or Lavos) to Satan is the same as an | ||
| + | Arab person comparing Chrono to Gilgamesh, or Greeks to many of their Heroes. Many of their | ||
| + | heroes struggle against an unknown evil force. Almost all of them die and are reborn in some | ||
| + | manner. One who understands anything about mythology and about good fantasy knows that this is | ||
| + | an inescapable theme, which also, not surprisingly, appears in the myths surrounding people | ||
| + | whose existence is historically documented like Jesus or Siddharta Guatama. This website is a | ||
| + | case of lofty religious folk trying to impose their religion, and trying to impose it through | ||
| + | one of my favorite games. Of course I respect your right to your opinion. | ||
| + | |||
| + | The second thing I would like to talk about is your odd comparison of Zeal to Babylon. While | ||
| + | in Babylon, the people worshipped many pagan Gods, in Zeal there is simply a slight reverence | ||
| + | (later moving to worship) for the power of Lavos. In Babylon, the city was destroyed by a | ||
| + | vengeful God who was angry at them for engaging in human sacrifice (something which never | ||
| + | appeared in Zeal), although the chief thing that angered God about the Babylonians was their | ||
| + | unwillingness to care for the poor. Go back and read it, I believe it's mentioned several | ||
| + | times. Another thing that should be mentioned is that the Israelites were a foreign people | ||
| + | enslaved by the Babylonians; the Earthbound are people from Zeal who were segregated because | ||
| + | they could not use magic, and were only later enslaved, when the queen had fallen under the | ||
| + | influence of Lavos. | ||
| + | |||
| + | You miss the point of the saga of Zeal, which does have a good message for those who are | ||
| + | willing to hear it. The story of Zeal and it's queen is one which warns against a blind lust | ||
| + | for power, as well as a disregard for the environment and our fellow human beings. The Queen's | ||
| + | willingness to build herself and her prestige at the cost of others is characteristic of many | ||
| + | of the tyrants in human history. I shake my head at one who strays so far from the mark. And | ||
| + | perhaps another point that you should note in the story of Zeal is what the word itself means. | ||
| + | |||
Please, I encourage you to continue prosletyzing, as I have greatly enjoyed this. | Please, I encourage you to continue prosletyzing, as I have greatly enjoyed this. | ||
Revision as of 23:29, 19 December 2004
Oh dear...
I wish I could comprehensively list every game, film, or book, that used names from the
bible. It is one of the most widely known religious documents in the world, but to draw all of the strange, allegorical comparisons that this site draws is just pure idiocy. Although I haven't explored it very much yet, there are some things I would like to talk about.
Biblical names are in fact, used in Chrono Trigger, but they appear in many games, films, and
books both from the West and the East, something you fail to note. The suggestion that the compelling biblical allegory in Chrono Trigger should easily be a testament of the religious affiliations of the creators is typical of the arrogance I would expect from an overzealous Westerner.
First and foremost,comparing Chrono to Jesus and Magus (or Lavos) to Satan is the same as an
Arab person comparing Chrono to Gilgamesh, or Greeks to many of their Heroes. Many of their heroes struggle against an unknown evil force. Almost all of them die and are reborn in some manner. One who understands anything about mythology and about good fantasy knows that this is an inescapable theme, which also, not surprisingly, appears in the myths surrounding people whose existence is historically documented like Jesus or Siddharta Guatama. This website is a case of lofty religious folk trying to impose their religion, and trying to impose it through one of my favorite games. Of course I respect your right to your opinion.
The second thing I would like to talk about is your odd comparison of Zeal to Babylon. While
in Babylon, the people worshipped many pagan Gods, in Zeal there is simply a slight reverence (later moving to worship) for the power of Lavos. In Babylon, the city was destroyed by a vengeful God who was angry at them for engaging in human sacrifice (something which never appeared in Zeal), although the chief thing that angered God about the Babylonians was their unwillingness to care for the poor. Go back and read it, I believe it's mentioned several times. Another thing that should be mentioned is that the Israelites were a foreign people enslaved by the Babylonians; the Earthbound are people from Zeal who were segregated because they could not use magic, and were only later enslaved, when the queen had fallen under the influence of Lavos.
You miss the point of the saga of Zeal, which does have a good message for those who are
willing to hear it. The story of Zeal and it's queen is one which warns against a blind lust for power, as well as a disregard for the environment and our fellow human beings. The Queen's willingness to build herself and her prestige at the cost of others is characteristic of many of the tyrants in human history. I shake my head at one who strays so far from the mark. And perhaps another point that you should note in the story of Zeal is what the word itself means.
Please, I encourage you to continue prosletyzing, as I have greatly enjoyed this.
